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Post by DarkAngel on Mar 9, 2005 17:46:09 GMT -5
Ok, now that Morb isn't posting anymore, the RPG needs a plot line. We still have to fulfill the prophecies set out for us by the seeress. Someone has to fulfill their's on Earth. We could all possibly split up and go fulfill our prophecies on our own...
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Post by Soulcatcher on Mar 9, 2005 19:39:49 GMT -5
OMG, I was a doushce bag RPer. I couldn't think of a decent prophecy .
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Post by SuperBassX84 on Mar 10, 2005 6:23:15 GMT -5
So that's the, what, second RPG on these two sites (or maybe just this one) that you've gone on the OOC thread and said you were a douchebag/bad/god-moding? Not a good batting average, soul....not good at all.
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Post by piñata on Apr 20, 2005 16:38:09 GMT -5
You know what just occured to me? This thing looks to be taking place pre-Conclave. In fact, several hundred years pre-Conclave by the looks of things. Since we only have 200 years' worth of adventuring left in the main Adventure storyline before the fall of the Conclave and the 700-year lull between then and the PPU Adventure, should we do a whole series of prequel RPGs after we're finished with this one?
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Post by SuperBassX84 on Apr 20, 2005 19:17:58 GMT -5
-=Blink blink=-
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Post by (LK) on Apr 20, 2005 20:43:56 GMT -5
You know what just occured to me? This thing looks to be taking place pre-Conclave. In fact, several hundred years pre-Conclave by the looks of things. Since we only have 200 years' worth of adventuring left in the main Adventure storyline before the fall of the Conclave and the 700-year lull between then and the PPU Adventure, should we do a whole series of prequel RPGs after we're finished with this one? sounds kinda complicated, so will it be like before the age of the conclave?
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Post by SuperBassX84 on Apr 21, 2005 9:17:47 GMT -5
I find it mildly humorous that "200 years worth of adventuring" is ALL that's left...because that's gonna run out on us in the remaining years we spend here.
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Post by piñata on Apr 21, 2005 11:36:22 GMT -5
sounds kinda complicated, so will it be like before the age of the conclave? Yes, exactly. And we would have to work out some obvious kinks, like the fact that some characters like Stalin, Krotos and LK aren't born yet during that timeframe, and we'd eventually have to introduce characters whose players are no longer active, like Viper, Paul, Deepak and Rebel, if we want to keep to the existing Conclave storyline, but I think we could do it. I find it mildly humorous that "200 years worth of adventuring" is ALL that's left...because that's gonna run out on us in the remaining years we spend here. Well, it probably will. Keep in mind, Adventure #1 happened 200 years before Adventure #11. I'm working on an official Conclave timeline that, when I finish it, will be posted in the Story Board. If anyone wants to have their character's background filled in better, feel free to tell me about anything you want included.
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Post by SuperBassX84 on Apr 21, 2005 14:20:15 GMT -5
-=Blinks again=-
How in the HELL do you figure that? My estimates come to a few years, MAYBE a decade (and that's stretching it).
I'm eager to see the logic here.
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Post by DarkAngel on Apr 21, 2005 17:27:04 GMT -5
OR:[/u] We just say this RPG isn't Conclave at all...I wasn't playing my character as my Adventure character.
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Post by SuperBassX84 on Apr 21, 2005 18:52:34 GMT -5
Nor was I. The background is totally different. The attributes are similar and the name is the same, but the character himself is an entirely different character.
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Post by stalin on Apr 22, 2005 0:03:16 GMT -5
Ugh, lets keep this stuff seperate. This whole 200 years is slightly odd considering we discribe it as a very short time frame.
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Post by piñata on Apr 22, 2005 10:15:55 GMT -5
Too many things happened on the Conclave outside of the Adventures for it to be a very short timeframe. The way I was viewing the storyline, the Conclave's been around for nearly 500 years. DA: Does that mean that the DA in the PPU Adventure isn't the same one from the Conclave Adventures? Or are you just recycling the name Geroth to deliberately confuse everyone? Bass: In order to explain the letter X in SEX Industries, your current Adventure character's father (Xavier) is currently slated to be mentioned in several of the projects I have in the pipeline for the Story Board. He's one of the Founders of the Conclave and a major character in the backstory during the First Age, but gets killed in the war with EM in order to make room for Tony (the current Super Bass character). Anyway, since Xavier was a Super Bass/Planeswalker as well, it could be that that's him in the pre-Conclave RPG. Doing a prequel storyline would give us a chance to explore a lot of things (like why there's more than one "Ape Killer" or "Super Bass"), and possibly transfer them into the Adventure storyline later. But if nobody else wants to do it, that's fine.
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Post by SuperBassX84 on Apr 22, 2005 15:15:51 GMT -5
These "too many things" you speak of. What exactly are you talking about?
I can almost buy the whole "my father this" and "first age" that stuff. Almost. But I'm not remembering, well, anything that would take more than a few months (and that's stretching it) in any of the adventures, much less a few years.
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Post by piñata on Apr 22, 2005 17:21:17 GMT -5
Outside the Adventures, Bass. Every time great deletions happened, Conclavers died of natural causes. You do know how long such a death would take for a magic-using character, right? Just in case you don't, most magic-users (and yes, we're talking about the absolute weakest ones here) live for well over a hundred years, sometimes as many as 200. Then there's the whole revolving door thing we have going here. Where do you think, say, Soul's character came from? He didn't originate his own family line in the Third Age of the Conclave, that's for damn sure. He was born (into an existing Conclave family) and reached adulthood sometime during the course of the storyline. Besides that, there are the wars we've had to consider. Do you really think it took less than a year (at minimum) to clean up the devastation from the war with EM, or from the large-scale campaign that caused nations to permanently die in Adventure #4? I could probably think of more examples if pressed.
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Post by SuperBassX84 on Apr 22, 2005 21:38:33 GMT -5
Touché, dear Piñata.
1. Who said that all the 'Clavers were Magic users? This is technically, a forum for all sorts of things. Perhaps they were merely some sort of important business man or general but did not actually wield magic, and thus died much sooner. Second, who said that it had to be of natural causes? An Admin coming through and removing you physically from existence doesn't exactly sound natural. Finally, who said the Deletions have anything to do with the Storyline? I'll admit we've used different things in the past as inspiration for general plot points, such as FU2 and the devastation of the several nations, but that does not immediately mean EVERYTHING that happens on the 'Clave should be turned into story. If it does, we'd have a whole mess of things we'd have to explain that, honestly, are too much trouble. Don't put so much context into the story being a direct mirror of the message board - let it evolve as it does.
2. Why does he have to have a "family line"? Why can't he just be a random hero or appointed personnel or friend? You've randomly pulled Ereinion into the storyline as a Ranger, but Soul has to come from a "family line"? I don't believe it. I've always taken all of the fellowship as random heroes from various parts of the 'Clave who've slowly gathered and banded. And where does this "Third Age" crap come from? When in the nine hells were the first two ages and how did they exist before the adventures which, assumedly, mark the beginning of major battles and such in the Conclave. Better yet, why the hell does it even matter?
3. Let's tackle this under a number of assumptions. A. Everyone in the 'Clave is a magic user (basically what you asserted previously). Clean-up from a war should take almost no time at all. Healing could be done, creatures could be summoned to help with the work, and a few months should be the extreme maximum it would take B. Only the Fellowship uses magic. It should still only take a year or two, as the Fellowship could easily break apart to deal with the specific regions, summoning creatures and performing healing magic to aid in it. C. Who said the next adventure waited until we were rebuilt? Seriously. There's nothing that says that anything stopped between that adventure and this. The most we've ever gone for the passage of time was after Morb disappeared unexpectedly. 4. Stop pre-writing the story. Please. There's nothing yet written that says precisely how long the 'Clave lives, only that it eventually falls and then 700 years later (if I'm correct) the PPU adventures start taking place. Putting a date on everything is frustrating, to say the least. When I started RPing in the 'Clave Adventures I intended them to simply go on for as long as the 'Clave lasted, be it another year or another decade. You are also creating a very large number of plot holes by trying to make the RPG the prequel and such. For instance - given the fact that The Super Bass in the Unnamed RPG has a strong dislike for Morbaruk, I somehow doubt that he'd settle in the Conclave once his plane is returned to normal. His plane was never returned to normal, you say? Then where's the necklace? Was it lost to time? Do I still have it? I don't like unexplained plot twists. He/I'd have guarded that necklace with his life and passed it on to his son with the same zealotry. As you see, my character in the Adventures is far from a zealot. Perhaps you could concoct some story to explain it, but considering it's my character, I would appreciate you not doing that. I'm worried enough about your "evolution" of Bane as is. Considering, as I said, there's been little about the timeline of any of this, I think the term "Godmoding" is appropriate. These Adventures were supposed to be fun - for Christ's sake, we started out fighting Furbies and a giant turd! If they start to become not fun anymore then I will not hesitate to kill myself off in a fashion in which I cannot be revived - something you'd be extremely hard pressed to explain on PPU, I think.
I do not mean any of this to be taken offensively, and I haven't the foggiest idea if anyone else even agrees with me, but I've never been all that big on biting my tongue before, I don't think now's a good time to start.
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Post by Elfie on Apr 22, 2005 22:41:47 GMT -5
Also, one must consider the fact that most of the posts on the 'Clave adventures are geared towards humour. I know that's the main reason I post.
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Post by stalin on Apr 23, 2005 11:25:03 GMT -5
Yeah, humor is a large part of why I post. Sure, I will get drawn in and make more serious RPing posts, but the humor is where the heart of the adventures lies. Pinny, your storyline and work wit the characters rocks and I really appriciate you doing it, but just make sure it doesnt have to cut off at a certain time. I think that the future of the clave is still to be writen, and the point that the clave dies, blows up, whatever it is, is still to be determined.
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Post by SuperBassX84 on Apr 23, 2005 15:00:50 GMT -5
Thank you, guys, for putting the general gist of what I said in less...angry...terms.
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Post by piñata on Apr 24, 2005 17:15:35 GMT -5
I can see now that even with writer's block I should have continued my posts in the Story Board so we would have something in which to base all of this. I'm all for humor, but that's far from the only reason I'm in on this, and a lot of Adventures I've seen that consist of primarily humor tend to suck compared to the other ones. That said, I can also see I'm outnumbered, so I'll continue trying to tie this in with the PPU Adventure (since certain things have to happen, like for example, Aratar and Ashley can't die : , but I'll also try not to add as much backstory (although I still maintain my belief that we need some backstory, and I don't see anyone else with the power to post in the Story Board making a serious contribution). Like Bass, I apologize if this sounds angry, but he's not the only one with strong feelings on the matter, so technically I guess I am a little angry.
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